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1astropi
I think now is an appropriate time to continue our discussions on a new thread! So here is an updated list of all current and past DLE:
Kelmscott Chaucer -limited to 425, includes clamshell -$600, #2290 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76834
King James Bible -limited to 400, includes slipcase -$600, #2537 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/107377
Midsummer Night's Dream (W.H. Robinson) -limited to 250, includes clamshell -$500, #2289
http://www.librarything.com/topic/87814
History of the Crusades (Dore) -limited to 600 -$500, #2563 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/98080
The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius (Flint) -limited to 500, slipcase -$200, #2548 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/106501
Leonardo da Vinci: the Notebooks -limited to 600, includes slipcase -$450, #2550 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/103870
The Divine Comedy (Dore) -limited to 400, includes slipcase -$396, #2630 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/110768
The History of the Indian Tribes of North America -limited to 400 -$597, #2597 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/107300
Cassell's Illustrated Family Bible -limited to 800, includes slipcase -$396, #2564
http://www.librarything.com/topic/108713
The Romance of King Arthur (Rackham) -limited to 400, slipcase -$356, #2671 (SOLD OUT) http://www.librarything.com/topic/108541
Lincoln A History (10 Volume Set) -limited to 400 -$999, #2725
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120487
Fahrenheit 451 (Signed by Bradbury) -limited to 700, includes slipcase -$195, #2708 (SOLD OUT) http://www.librarything.com/topic/108648
Gulliver's Travels-limited to 600, includes slipcase -$199.80, #2747
Fables of Aesop-limited to 600, includes slipcase -$500, #2721, ships Aug 5
The Canterbury Tales (W.R. Flint) -limited to 500, includes slipcase -$750, #2767
Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire (40 plates) -limited to 600, slipcase -$500 (CANCELED)
http://gibbon.epetitions.net/
Ovid's Metamorphoses (130 Illustrations) -limited to 400 -$500 #2710
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120475
Prince and the Pauper (192 B&W Illustrations) - limited to 600, slipcase, $285 #2784
London A Pilgramage (Dore) -limited to?, slipcase -$496 #?
Slaughterhouse-Five (signed by Vonnegut) -limited to 850, includes slipcase -$267, #2719
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120438
My personal opinion is that all the DLEs are the finest work EP has done, and each one is certainly worth the cost. The upcoming Slaughterhouse-Five will be amazing! It includes color illustrations as well as all the amenities of the DLEs. It is also signed by the author (it's not unheard of to have an author sign plates and later pass away) which I think makes it truly special (not because he signed plates before he passed away, but because an author's signature is always something personal and special in my opinion)! Anyway, I'm also hoping they will be able to bring back the canceled Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire. If we get enough signatures I'll print it out and send it to EP, but for now we only have 9 signatures, so we need more people to sign!
http://gibbon.epetitions.net/
Kelmscott Chaucer -limited to 425, includes clamshell -$600, #2290 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/76834
King James Bible -limited to 400, includes slipcase -$600, #2537 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/107377
Midsummer Night's Dream (W.H. Robinson) -limited to 250, includes clamshell -$500, #2289
http://www.librarything.com/topic/87814
History of the Crusades (Dore) -limited to 600 -$500, #2563 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/98080
The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius (Flint) -limited to 500, slipcase -$200, #2548 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/106501
Leonardo da Vinci: the Notebooks -limited to 600, includes slipcase -$450, #2550 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/103870
The Divine Comedy (Dore) -limited to 400, includes slipcase -$396, #2630 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/110768
The History of the Indian Tribes of North America -limited to 400 -$597, #2597 (SOLD OUT)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/107300
Cassell's Illustrated Family Bible -limited to 800, includes slipcase -$396, #2564
http://www.librarything.com/topic/108713
The Romance of King Arthur (Rackham) -limited to 400, slipcase -$356, #2671 (SOLD OUT) http://www.librarything.com/topic/108541
Lincoln A History (10 Volume Set) -limited to 400 -$999, #2725
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120487
Fahrenheit 451 (Signed by Bradbury) -limited to 700, includes slipcase -$195, #2708 (SOLD OUT) http://www.librarything.com/topic/108648
Gulliver's Travels-limited to 600, includes slipcase -$199.80, #2747
Fables of Aesop-limited to 600, includes slipcase -$500, #2721, ships Aug 5
The Canterbury Tales (W.R. Flint) -limited to 500, includes slipcase -$750, #2767
Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire (40 plates) -limited to 600, slipcase -$500 (CANCELED)
http://gibbon.epetitions.net/
Ovid's Metamorphoses (130 Illustrations) -limited to 400 -$500 #2710
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120475
Prince and the Pauper (192 B&W Illustrations) - limited to 600, slipcase, $285 #2784
London A Pilgramage (Dore) -limited to?, slipcase -$496 #?
Slaughterhouse-Five (signed by Vonnegut) -limited to 850, includes slipcase -$267, #2719
http://www.librarything.com/topic/120438
My personal opinion is that all the DLEs are the finest work EP has done, and each one is certainly worth the cost. The upcoming Slaughterhouse-Five will be amazing! It includes color illustrations as well as all the amenities of the DLEs. It is also signed by the author (it's not unheard of to have an author sign plates and later pass away) which I think makes it truly special (not because he signed plates before he passed away, but because an author's signature is always something personal and special in my opinion)! Anyway, I'm also hoping they will be able to bring back the canceled Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire. If we get enough signatures I'll print it out and send it to EP, but for now we only have 9 signatures, so we need more people to sign!
http://gibbon.epetitions.net/
2busywine
Ordered Slaughterhouse-Five this morning...to answer my own question, it is 3 payments of $89 as on the web site....when you get it in your cart it will say 5 payments, but that is incorrect.
3Tom41
>1 astropi: FYI: Ovid's Metamorphoses does not have a slipcase.
4astropi
Slaughterhouse-Five will certainly sell out, much like Fahrenheit 451 did. I suppose given enough time they will all sell out, but I predict Slaughterhouse-Five will sell out very quickly.
6kdweber
>1 astropi: Astropi, remember, The Romance of King Arthur was changed to a limitation of 400.
7busywine
Just got Ovid in today. A HUGE and beautiful book. I put some pictures in:
http://www.librarything.com/gallery/member/busywine/tag/Easton+Press+DLE%27s
http://www.librarything.com/gallery/member/busywine/tag/Easton+Press+DLE%27s
8SirFolio16
I just placed an order for the Prince and the Pauper. I was told that it will be coming in a Clamshell as opposed to a slipcase.
If i am not mistaken the woman who helpd me said it was item #2784
If i am not mistaken the woman who helpd me said it was item #2784
9astropi
7: busywine, thanks for the great pics! Please keep adding more :)
Thanks for all the help everyone!
By the way, if you were to purchase 1 of each DLE (including those that have not yet been released, and barring Gibbon which was canceled), you would pay $8786.80
Thanks for all the help everyone!
By the way, if you were to purchase 1 of each DLE (including those that have not yet been released, and barring Gibbon which was canceled), you would pay $8786.80
10wailofatail
Easton Press has long been a master of re-cycling titles in different formats: same collection with different illustrators, same book with different translations, same book but illustrated v. without illustrations, same book in different collections but with different inside board treatments and title pages, different collections with different covers but otherwise the same book, same collection with same illustrator but different covers, titles sold as part of a collection later sold individually from collection, and titles sold individually later added to a collection. It is nearly impossible to keep track of them.
The latest re-cycling endeavor, of course, is the 'Deluxe Limited Editions': Aesop's Fables, Gulliver's Travels, The Prince And The Pauper, Canterbury Tales, Midsummer Night's Dream, Divine Comedy, Leonardo DaVinci Notebooks, Meditations Of Marcus Aurelius, Fahrenheit 451, the proposed Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire, and now Slaughterhouse Five. Granted, these books are substantially different than their previously published counterparts. In that respect, I applaud them, though I am not enthusiastic about the price tag reflecting that difference.
On the other hand, every time Easton Press re-publishes a title it diminishes the value of those previously published. Arguably, many of the titles selected for re-publication are titles from collections that have been re-published so many times as to have already depreciated them well below their original retail price: '100 Greatest Books Ever Written', 'Masterpieces Of American Literature', and 'Masterpieces of Science Fiction'. The introduction of the 'Limited Edition' may actually help re-establish these titles as collectible. But the introduction of the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' of Slaughterhouse Five marks the second publication that I selfishly find disconcerting.
The thought recently crossed my mind with the publication of the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' of Fahrenheit 451. Early subscribers to the 'Signed Modern Classics' collection were lucky enough to have received a signed edition of Fahrenheit 451. Even though the title had been published previously in the 'Masterpieces Of Science Fiction' collection and later with a different cover in the 'Great Books Of The 20th Century' collection, the 'Signed Modern Classic' edition was the only signed EP edition of this classic title. Averaging around $200.00 for a second-hand copy, it established itself as one among a small handful of especially prized titles to have emerged from the 'Signed Modern Classics' collection. It will be interesting to see what affect the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' has on the re-sale price of the 'Signed Modern Classic' edition.
Now, with the announcement of the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' of Slaughterhouse Five, another one of the relatively few elite titles from the 'Signed Modern Classics' collection to have achieved consistent re-sale prices above $200.00 will be under downward price pressure. Suddenly, the consolation these few 'Signed Modern Classic' titles provided long-time subscribers to the series in return for all of the less than stellar publications that have decreased in value seems lessened. Of course, I purchase these books for the enjoyment I derive from them but at Easton Press prices it would be fool-hardy not to consider the financial implications. And honestly, don't we all derive a little more enjoyment from those particular editions that increase in value, even if that isn't our primary motivation in purchasing them?
I suffered similar financial disappointment with regard to the 'Classics of Horror' collection, the three volume set that included Frankenstein, Dracula, and The Phantom Of The Opera, published in black leather with complimentary icons for the cover of each edition: severed arms, bats, and masks, respectively. For a time these editions routinely sold for upwards of $100.00 ea. and $500.00 or more for the complete set; well above the original retail price. Then the same edition of Frankenstein was issued for a time as part of the 'Famous Editions' collection. The price has subsequently dropped considerably for that edition. The publication of the now long-standing 'Horror Classics' collection has further depressed the market for these once high-flying editions. I still enjoy owning them immensely but the extra pleasure I derived from their increased value is not as great as it once was.
Time will tell what effect the new 'Deluxe Signed Limited Editions' of Fahrenheit 451 and Slaughterhouse Five will have on their 'Signed Modern Classic' counterparts. There is still the lure of having a complete collection of 'Signed Modern Classics' to prop up their value but losing the portion of the market that just wants a signed copy and not a particular signed copy will certainly affect the price detrimentally.
Personally, for the sake of the diversity of my collection as well as from the point of view of a long time collector who has invested heavily in Easton Press books, I wish Easton Press would consider more previously unpublished titles rather than re-cycling old titles in ever-newer packages. I really don't need a third edition of Frankenstein and I could more easily justify my addiction if new editions didn't cannibalize the value of previous purchases. If you're listening, Easton Press, there is a wonderful list of currently unpublished suggestions in the Books That Should Have An EP Edition thread for publication consideration, deluxe or otherwise.
The latest re-cycling endeavor, of course, is the 'Deluxe Limited Editions': Aesop's Fables, Gulliver's Travels, The Prince And The Pauper, Canterbury Tales, Midsummer Night's Dream, Divine Comedy, Leonardo DaVinci Notebooks, Meditations Of Marcus Aurelius, Fahrenheit 451, the proposed Decline And Fall Of The Roman Empire, and now Slaughterhouse Five. Granted, these books are substantially different than their previously published counterparts. In that respect, I applaud them, though I am not enthusiastic about the price tag reflecting that difference.
On the other hand, every time Easton Press re-publishes a title it diminishes the value of those previously published. Arguably, many of the titles selected for re-publication are titles from collections that have been re-published so many times as to have already depreciated them well below their original retail price: '100 Greatest Books Ever Written', 'Masterpieces Of American Literature', and 'Masterpieces of Science Fiction'. The introduction of the 'Limited Edition' may actually help re-establish these titles as collectible. But the introduction of the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' of Slaughterhouse Five marks the second publication that I selfishly find disconcerting.
The thought recently crossed my mind with the publication of the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' of Fahrenheit 451. Early subscribers to the 'Signed Modern Classics' collection were lucky enough to have received a signed edition of Fahrenheit 451. Even though the title had been published previously in the 'Masterpieces Of Science Fiction' collection and later with a different cover in the 'Great Books Of The 20th Century' collection, the 'Signed Modern Classic' edition was the only signed EP edition of this classic title. Averaging around $200.00 for a second-hand copy, it established itself as one among a small handful of especially prized titles to have emerged from the 'Signed Modern Classics' collection. It will be interesting to see what affect the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' has on the re-sale price of the 'Signed Modern Classic' edition.
Now, with the announcement of the 'Deluxe Signed Limited Edition' of Slaughterhouse Five, another one of the relatively few elite titles from the 'Signed Modern Classics' collection to have achieved consistent re-sale prices above $200.00 will be under downward price pressure. Suddenly, the consolation these few 'Signed Modern Classic' titles provided long-time subscribers to the series in return for all of the less than stellar publications that have decreased in value seems lessened. Of course, I purchase these books for the enjoyment I derive from them but at Easton Press prices it would be fool-hardy not to consider the financial implications. And honestly, don't we all derive a little more enjoyment from those particular editions that increase in value, even if that isn't our primary motivation in purchasing them?
I suffered similar financial disappointment with regard to the 'Classics of Horror' collection, the three volume set that included Frankenstein, Dracula, and The Phantom Of The Opera, published in black leather with complimentary icons for the cover of each edition: severed arms, bats, and masks, respectively. For a time these editions routinely sold for upwards of $100.00 ea. and $500.00 or more for the complete set; well above the original retail price. Then the same edition of Frankenstein was issued for a time as part of the 'Famous Editions' collection. The price has subsequently dropped considerably for that edition. The publication of the now long-standing 'Horror Classics' collection has further depressed the market for these once high-flying editions. I still enjoy owning them immensely but the extra pleasure I derived from their increased value is not as great as it once was.
Time will tell what effect the new 'Deluxe Signed Limited Editions' of Fahrenheit 451 and Slaughterhouse Five will have on their 'Signed Modern Classic' counterparts. There is still the lure of having a complete collection of 'Signed Modern Classics' to prop up their value but losing the portion of the market that just wants a signed copy and not a particular signed copy will certainly affect the price detrimentally.
Personally, for the sake of the diversity of my collection as well as from the point of view of a long time collector who has invested heavily in Easton Press books, I wish Easton Press would consider more previously unpublished titles rather than re-cycling old titles in ever-newer packages. I really don't need a third edition of Frankenstein and I could more easily justify my addiction if new editions didn't cannibalize the value of previous purchases. If you're listening, Easton Press, there is a wonderful list of currently unpublished suggestions in the Books That Should Have An EP Edition thread for publication consideration, deluxe or otherwise.
11astropi
Sorry Wail, I don't think it's fair to say that the DLEs are recylced (which is what I think you were hinting at, atlhough I'm not entirely certain). I completely agree that EP has recycled material before for previous sets. However, you certainly can't expect the text of a book itself to change, since the words (hopefully) have not changed since they were first put down on paper by the author!! The FACT that they use different illustrations, is what makes the volume most special and appealing (in my opinion). So now, about the DLEs specifically...
Out of all the DLEs (20 so far), the only book which I would consider recylced (and not entirely) is Fahrenheit 451, and that of course was originally an LEC book. Also, EP did commission special artwork for it. As for Slaughterhouse Five, correct me if I'm wrong but it too includes specially commissioned color illustrations which are NOT part of the previously released signed EP edition. The other DLEs, to my knowledge, have never before been published by EP, at least with these illustrations. For example, I am thrilled to have the Dore Divine Comedy! The illustrations for the "normal" EP Divine Comedy (such as in the 100 Greatest Books) don't appeal to me. Now, if you've been with EP for a long time you might say, "wait a minute! EP did release the Dore Divine Comedy before, I know it!" That's not entirely true. EP produced the cover for the Dore Divine Comedy, but the volume itself was produced by a company (can't remember the name) which made the book in China. The DLE Divine Comedy is 100% Easton Press, with leather imported for Italy, fine paper, very large dimension, slipcase etc etc. Other titles in the DLE line such as the Notebooks of Leonardo da Vinci, have never been released by EP in any format. Still others (such as Meditiations) were previously released, but never released with these illustrations (by Flint) or in this quality (hand-tipped, etc). So I have to say I do not consider the DLEs recycled. Of course, the DLEs might bring the price of other editions down, but that's because these editions are of such premium quality.
I have to say I have been very pleased with the choice of titles EP has published. Were they to publish a DLE of Frankenstein or Dracula, you can bet it would sell out quickly and for good reason! Also, no one is of course forcing you to purchase a third edition of Frankenstein if it came to that. Furthermore, you could always sell your other editions. EP is in the end of the day a business. If something is going to sell well but bring down the second-hand value of the collectible, they will likely do it. I can't really blame them for that. However, the DLEs are all unique and won't be published again (at least not by EP)! I do agree Wail, the price tag is very high, but you enjoy what you can :)
Out of all the DLEs (20 so far), the only book which I would consider recylced (and not entirely) is Fahrenheit 451, and that of course was originally an LEC book. Also, EP did commission special artwork for it. As for Slaughterhouse Five, correct me if I'm wrong but it too includes specially commissioned color illustrations which are NOT part of the previously released signed EP edition. The other DLEs, to my knowledge, have never before been published by EP, at least with these illustrations. For example, I am thrilled to have the Dore Divine Comedy! The illustrations for the "normal" EP Divine Comedy (such as in the 100 Greatest Books) don't appeal to me. Now, if you've been with EP for a long time you might say, "wait a minute! EP did release the Dore Divine Comedy before, I know it!" That's not entirely true. EP produced the cover for the Dore Divine Comedy, but the volume itself was produced by a company (can't remember the name) which made the book in China. The DLE Divine Comedy is 100% Easton Press, with leather imported for Italy, fine paper, very large dimension, slipcase etc etc. Other titles in the DLE line such as the Notebooks of Leonardo da Vinci, have never been released by EP in any format. Still others (such as Meditiations) were previously released, but never released with these illustrations (by Flint) or in this quality (hand-tipped, etc). So I have to say I do not consider the DLEs recycled. Of course, the DLEs might bring the price of other editions down, but that's because these editions are of such premium quality.
I have to say I have been very pleased with the choice of titles EP has published. Were they to publish a DLE of Frankenstein or Dracula, you can bet it would sell out quickly and for good reason! Also, no one is of course forcing you to purchase a third edition of Frankenstein if it came to that. Furthermore, you could always sell your other editions. EP is in the end of the day a business. If something is going to sell well but bring down the second-hand value of the collectible, they will likely do it. I can't really blame them for that. However, the DLEs are all unique and won't be published again (at least not by EP)! I do agree Wail, the price tag is very high, but you enjoy what you can :)
12wailofatail
>11 astropi:: Easton Press has published the Leonardo DaVinci Notebooks previously, in a single volume, coffee-table style edition.
I noted that the 'Deluxe Limited Editions' are substantially different. You indicate that "the other DLEs ... have never before been published by EP" and then go on to describe each of the other editions they have previously published. I realize they are different editions but they are the same title, and hence, recycled, only in a newer, differenter, betterer edition.
With regard to, "Also, no one is of course forcing you to purchase a third edition of Frankenstein if it came to that," tell that to my OCD!
My point is not that the edition is recycled, but that the "Title" is re-cycled. C'mon, already EP has issued two 'Deluxe Limited Editions' of The Canterbury Tales. Sure they are both different, but the midwife's suiter kisses the midwife's arse in the same place both times. I guess I feel like I'd be doing the same thing to Easton Press if they had their way.
There's no question these volumes are superior editions, hence the 'Deluxe', but I would feel better if they were titles they hadn't already sold or tried to sell me previously. Heck, how do I know there isn't a 'Bestest' edition coming out next month that will make the 'Better' edition I purchased this month pale? Sure, I could sell the 'Better' one but at what price? In a sense, I will be paying a premium for being a dedicated customer, always selling my obsolete, depreciated edition to buy the new, improved edition.
I know what you're saying, astropi. I'm just saying, in this twisted relationship that EP and I have I wish that instead of all of this something old that there was something new because all of this something borrowed is making me blue.
I noted that the 'Deluxe Limited Editions' are substantially different. You indicate that "the other DLEs ... have never before been published by EP" and then go on to describe each of the other editions they have previously published. I realize they are different editions but they are the same title, and hence, recycled, only in a newer, differenter, betterer edition.
With regard to, "Also, no one is of course forcing you to purchase a third edition of Frankenstein if it came to that," tell that to my OCD!
My point is not that the edition is recycled, but that the "Title" is re-cycled. C'mon, already EP has issued two 'Deluxe Limited Editions' of The Canterbury Tales. Sure they are both different, but the midwife's suiter kisses the midwife's arse in the same place both times. I guess I feel like I'd be doing the same thing to Easton Press if they had their way.
There's no question these volumes are superior editions, hence the 'Deluxe', but I would feel better if they were titles they hadn't already sold or tried to sell me previously. Heck, how do I know there isn't a 'Bestest' edition coming out next month that will make the 'Better' edition I purchased this month pale? Sure, I could sell the 'Better' one but at what price? In a sense, I will be paying a premium for being a dedicated customer, always selling my obsolete, depreciated edition to buy the new, improved edition.
I know what you're saying, astropi. I'm just saying, in this twisted relationship that EP and I have I wish that instead of all of this something old that there was something new because all of this something borrowed is making me blue.
13Arknight
>10 wailofatail:
Wail, I had a question for you about the covers on the "Classics of Horror" Dracula, Frankenstein, and Phantom of the Opera. So far, I have received Dracula and Phantom of the Opera and will be receiving Frankenstein this month. I have not seen any covers like you described as "severed arms, bats, and masks, respectively". Did I read that wrong, maybe? My copy of Dracula looks like this:
http://www.amazon.com/EASTON-PRESS-DRACULA-BRAM-STOKER/dp/B000CPAFXA
My Phantom of the Opera looks like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/EASTON-PRESS-PHANTOM-OPERA-LEROUX-SEALED-/110699799021?pt=An...
Wail, I had a question for you about the covers on the "Classics of Horror" Dracula, Frankenstein, and Phantom of the Opera. So far, I have received Dracula and Phantom of the Opera and will be receiving Frankenstein this month. I have not seen any covers like you described as "severed arms, bats, and masks, respectively". Did I read that wrong, maybe? My copy of Dracula looks like this:
http://www.amazon.com/EASTON-PRESS-DRACULA-BRAM-STOKER/dp/B000CPAFXA
My Phantom of the Opera looks like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/EASTON-PRESS-PHANTOM-OPERA-LEROUX-SEALED-/110699799021?pt=An...
14busywine
Having purchased direct from EP for ever twenty years and 400 plus titles, I tend to agree that it would be nice to have some idea that they will not next come out with a 'super duper best deluxe ever' set of the same books we are now spending $500 a pop on. Sure, doing so drives down the value of our current investment, but worse if we knew that was the plan many of us would just wait for that, due to a strange and wallet busting pursuit of the best edition one can find! Having said that, I do like these dle's and think they are doing a great job with them. I hope try do more with original illustrations and things to make them more unique.
15wailofatail
>13 Arknight:: The two versions you've purchased appear to be from the '100 Greatest Books Ever Written', which I believe have been abducted from the 'Horror Classics' collection. The editions to which I refer are different. Here is another auction for the Frankenstein edition, in which you can see the severed arms. Here is an auction for the three volume set. You can see the cover of The Phantom Of The Opera with the masks. I don't see a listing in which you can see the cover of Dracula but it has little bats that compliment the severed arms and the masks.
16Tom41
>10 wailofatail: Wail, what is the item number for the three- volume Horror Classic set?
17Arknight
>15 wailofatail:
I believe I now see the difference in what we are referring to as "Horror Classics". I should have pointed out that I am currently a subscriber to the "Classics of Horror" set currently available from EP (consisting of 13 books). The copies I have of Dracula and Phantom of the Opera come from that set. From what I am ascertaining from your post, there was also an older 3 volume set called "Horror Classics" which had the unique covers.
I believe I now see the difference in what we are referring to as "Horror Classics". I should have pointed out that I am currently a subscriber to the "Classics of Horror" set currently available from EP (consisting of 13 books). The copies I have of Dracula and Phantom of the Opera come from that set. From what I am ascertaining from your post, there was also an older 3 volume set called "Horror Classics" which had the unique covers.
18wailofatail
>17 Arknight: I believe you have that backwards. You are currently a subscriber to the 'Horror Classics', which is the thirteen volume collection. The 'Classics Of Horror' was the three volume set.
19wailofatail
>10 wailofatail:: Tom, I don't have the item number for the 'Classics Of Horror' set. The brochure is of a vintage that didn't include item numbers.
20jlabeatnik
re: Slaughterhouse-Five
sigh..... what to do, what to do?? Most of the editions around the $275 price tag on alibris are already Easton Press or Franklin copies. Have to really have some serious funding to get a real 1st edition. I love my Fahrenheit 451, but this one costs quite a bit more, and isn't as limited.
sigh..... what to do, what to do?? Most of the editions around the $275 price tag on alibris are already Easton Press or Franklin copies. Have to really have some serious funding to get a real 1st edition. I love my Fahrenheit 451, but this one costs quite a bit more, and isn't as limited.
21astropi
20: ?? The new Slaughterhouse-Five is under $200, and is most certainly a limited edition. True, it's about 100 copies more than the Fahrenheit, but still under 1000 copies worldwide. I consider that quite limited!
22Wootle
21-- You better check the price my friend.
It is $72 more, and the print run was increased by 150.
It is $72 more, and the print run was increased by 150.
23astropi
Well, I did say "about" 100 copies more, and it is under 1000 copies :) You're right though, I did mess up on the price. It's $267. Despite all this, I predict it will sell out fairly quickly. Plus color illustrations, which might explain why it's more expensive.
24jlabeatnik
Ordered Slaughterhouse 5.
25Wootle
Please excuse the poor photography, was in a hurry. I'm not opening them for a week or two, I should have my new shelving unit in place then for these DLEs.
Moved these photos to the Lincoln thread.
Moved these photos to the Lincoln thread.
27astropi
Slightly off-topic, but I posed some pics of non-EP deluxe limited editions here: :)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/78933#2774185
http://www.librarything.com/topic/78933#2774185
28prinmac
Just a heads up - I called Easton Press Wednesday inquiring about my Romance of King Arthur order and they informed me that recent orders of this would not be arriving until sometime in August.
I also asked how many Ovids they had left. She wouldn't tell me an exact number but thought they would be gone "in about a month". I went ahead and ordered one.
I also asked how many Ovids they had left. She wouldn't tell me an exact number but thought they would be gone "in about a month". I went ahead and ordered one.
29iluvbeckett
Thanks for the heads-up about the Ovid.
31prinmac
29- Your welcome. I wish EP would put on their website remaining copies left for their low stock items like the Folio Society often does on their Limited Editions.
30- Yes I did, thank you for those posts. They helped nudge me into a purchase.
30- Yes I did, thank you for those posts. They helped nudge me into a purchase.
32ultrarightist
Busywine, in your copy of the Ovid edition, is the author's name and title on the front cover stamped in both gold and black print, at somewhat of an offset to each other?
33busywine
>32 ultrarightist: Yes on the Gold and Black, I would say centered to each other. Here is a photo:
http://www.librarything.com/pic/247586
http://www.librarything.com/pic/247586
34LucasTrask
Great pictures of the Lincoln: A History set Wootle, it looks really nice. May I ask what the series on the shelf below is?
36LucasTrask
Thanks, that's what I thought based on the hat, but I wasn't sure. Subterranean Press has started to publish limited edition hardcovers of the series, as well as a collection of all the Dresden Files short stories, including a new novella written especially for it. The first three already sold out, along with a novelette, so I missed the boat if I wanted to collect a complete set. My wife and I watched the series and liked it, but we haven’t read any of the books yet.
37Wootle
I have all the limiteds, and pre-ordered the next two. The books are not like the show, they are much better. I enjoyed the show in its own right, but not close to the written word. You still have time, Sub Press is only up to book 4, with about 20 or so to go. Better start now, the prices for the first 3 have skyrocketed to the moon.
The limiteds are in that pic, they are the first three on the left. You know what the ones on the above shelf are. :)
The limiteds are in that pic, they are the first three on the left. You know what the ones on the above shelf are. :)
38AnnieMod
>36 LucasTrask:
The series is quite different from the books - just a warning. Both are enjoyable but the series just used a couple of subplots from the books...:)
The series is quite different from the books - just a warning. Both are enjoyable but the series just used a couple of subplots from the books...:)
39LucasTrask
I really like the SubPress cover for Summer Knight. Is it a good place to start the series? Or should I get the first three books elsewhere? Also, what do you think of the SubPress editions?
And not to go completely off track, I'm really interested in the Lincoln: A Life set and would like to know what you think of it after you open the books. I'm most interested in the 'over 350 maps, documents and portraits'.
And not to go completely off track, I'm really interested in the Lincoln: A Life set and would like to know what you think of it after you open the books. I'm most interested in the 'over 350 maps, documents and portraits'.
40Wootle
You can start Dresden anywhere, but of course you will miss a lot of the history starting in the middle. I would advise starting at one, they read quick, and are fun. The Sub Press editions are their usual limiteds, cloth bound, sewn binding, tipped in signature pages, just a nice quality hardcover in todays standards. The first six in the series are actually PBOs (paperback originals), then starting at number seven (Dead Beat), they printed hardcovers. When they got to book ten or so, they went back and printed hardcovers for the first six, and those are now getting hard to get in 1st printings also.
I would advise reading the first couple and determine if you like the series before putting out the money for 1st editon hardcovers or the limiteds. Butchers plan is for there to be between 20-24 books in the series, and several short story omnibuses. Book 13 (Ghost Story) is coming out next month.
I'll post an update to the Lincoln set when they find their permanent shelf in a bit. I'm wondering if anyone else here ordered Lincoln, or if I was the only one.
I would advise reading the first couple and determine if you like the series before putting out the money for 1st editon hardcovers or the limiteds. Butchers plan is for there to be between 20-24 books in the series, and several short story omnibuses. Book 13 (Ghost Story) is coming out next month.
I'll post an update to the Lincoln set when they find their permanent shelf in a bit. I'm wondering if anyone else here ordered Lincoln, or if I was the only one.
41astropi
40: that price is just too much for me. Granted, it amounts to $100 a book, which is great price for a deluxe limited edition, but multiply by 10 and it gets too expensive. Although I love learning about the Civil War, ten volumes is probably too much Lincoln for me.
42LucasTrask
I'm pretty sure I'm going to order the Lincoln set, as it is only $100 per volume, but I would like to see some of the documents, etc. first. The more I read about Lincoln the more I want to read about him.
43wailofatail
The DLE Slaughterhouse Five is shipping as gabrielac currently has his $399.00 copy available for purchase on eBay. How does he always seem to get his copies before everyone else?
45LucasTrask
I don't know, but the cabinets in the background look like they have E/P books and could be used on catalog covers.
46LucasTrask
The page for The Romance of King Arthur is still there (http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2671) and it shows out of stock.
The King James Bible 1611 Edition (http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2537) also shows out of stock.
The King James Bible 1611 Edition (http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2537) also shows out of stock.
47hamletscamaro
Why is it that the DLEs listed on their website seem to come and go from the site? Sometimes they seem to have a fairly good listing of the DLE's, even if they are "out of stock", and other times it seems as though the books disappear.
48Wootle
I don't think they have actually removed any of the DLE pages once they get to the site, they have taken a few off the DLE page. Here is my list that I keep, a few of them do not have pages yet, but should be at that link once it is made.
Easton Press Limited’s
2290 The Kelmscott Press’s The Works of Geoffrey Chaucer: /425, 6@$99.00 ($594.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2290
2537 The King James Bible The Classic 1611 Edition: /400, 4@$149.00 ($596.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2537
2289 William Shakespeare’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream: /250, 5@$99.00 ($495.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2289
2563 Joseph-Francois Michaud’s History of the Crusades: /600, 4@$125.00, ($500.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2563
2548 The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius: /500, 4@$49.95 ($199.80)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2548
2550 Leonardo Da Vinci: The Notebooks: /600, 6@$75.00 ($450.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2550
2597 History of the Indian Tribes of North America by McKenney and Hall: /400, 6@$99.50 ($597.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2597
2564 The Holy Bible Cassell’s Illustrated Family Edition: /600, 4@$99.00 ($396.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2564
2671 The Romance of King Arthur: /400 4@$89.00 ($356.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2671
2630 Dante Alighieri The Divine Comedy: /400, 4@$99.00 ($396.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2630
2725 Lincoln A History by Nicolay and Hay: /400, 4@$249.75 ($999.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2725
2708 Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury: /700, 3@$65.00 ($195.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2708
2747 Jonathan Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels: /600 4@$49.95 ($199.80)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2747
2721 The Fables of Aesop: /600 4@$125.00 ($500.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2721
2767 The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer: /500 6@$125.00 ($750.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2767
2710 Ovid’s Metamorphoses: /400, 4@$125.00 ($500.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2710
2784 The Prince and the Pauper by Mark Twain: /600, 3@$95.00 ($285.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2784
2777 London by Gustave Dore and Blanchard Jerrold: /600, 4@$124.00 ($496.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2777
2719 Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut Jr: /850, 3@$89.00 ($267.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2719
Easton Press Limited’s
2290 The Kelmscott Press’s The Works of Geoffrey Chaucer: /425, 6@$99.00 ($594.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2290
2537 The King James Bible The Classic 1611 Edition: /400, 4@$149.00 ($596.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2537
2289 William Shakespeare’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream: /250, 5@$99.00 ($495.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2289
2563 Joseph-Francois Michaud’s History of the Crusades: /600, 4@$125.00, ($500.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2563
2548 The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius: /500, 4@$49.95 ($199.80)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2548
2550 Leonardo Da Vinci: The Notebooks: /600, 6@$75.00 ($450.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2550
2597 History of the Indian Tribes of North America by McKenney and Hall: /400, 6@$99.50 ($597.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2597
2564 The Holy Bible Cassell’s Illustrated Family Edition: /600, 4@$99.00 ($396.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2564
2671 The Romance of King Arthur: /400 4@$89.00 ($356.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2671
2630 Dante Alighieri The Divine Comedy: /400, 4@$99.00 ($396.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2630
2725 Lincoln A History by Nicolay and Hay: /400, 4@$249.75 ($999.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2725
2708 Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury: /700, 3@$65.00 ($195.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2708
2747 Jonathan Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels: /600 4@$49.95 ($199.80)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2747
2721 The Fables of Aesop: /600 4@$125.00 ($500.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2721
2767 The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer: /500 6@$125.00 ($750.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2767
2710 Ovid’s Metamorphoses: /400, 4@$125.00 ($500.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2710
2784 The Prince and the Pauper by Mark Twain: /600, 3@$95.00 ($285.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2784
2777 London by Gustave Dore and Blanchard Jerrold: /600, 4@$124.00 ($496.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2777
2719 Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut Jr: /850, 3@$89.00 ($267.00)
http://www.eastonpressbooks.com/leather/product.asp?code=2719
49iluvbeckett
>43 wailofatail:, 45
Aha, it all fits together - gabrielac works for EP!! We've suspected as much for awhile. Hope they find out what he's doing and fire his a**!!!
Aha, it all fits together - gabrielac works for EP!! We've suspected as much for awhile. Hope they find out what he's doing and fire his a**!!!
50Wootle
49- We've had that conversation several times here, but what is the evidence? Anyone could have nice bookcases filled with EP books, in fact, I think many of us would like to have that nice looking library. My shelving doesn't look quite that nice, but I could certainly display all my EP books to look like an EP catalog, as many of us here could I believe.
The only evidence I could possibly think of is his early reception of titles. But, maybe EP gives preferential treatment to customers that spend as much money as he/she does.
The only evidence I could possibly think of is his early reception of titles. But, maybe EP gives preferential treatment to customers that spend as much money as he/she does.
51wailofatail
>48 Wootle:: Your links above for The Prince And The Pauper and London: A Pilgrimage take me to an out-of-stock page for The Romance Of King Arthur, even though the product number is incorrect.
>50 Wootle:: If the guilt or innocence of Casey Anthony in the media or popular opinion is any indication, we don't need evidence.
>50 Wootle:: If the guilt or innocence of Casey Anthony in the media or popular opinion is any indication, we don't need evidence.
52Wootle
51- Those links will work properly once they bother to make a page for them.
I guess I don't understand the uproar about that case. The jury heard the entire case, and ruled unanimously and quickly that she was innocent. I certainly didn't pay attention to the case, and I doubt if many other people actually saw the entire proceeding to make the same decision that the jury had to make. I was led to believe in school that innocent until proven guilty was the proper way, maybe I'm wrong.
I guess I don't understand the uproar about that case. The jury heard the entire case, and ruled unanimously and quickly that she was innocent. I certainly didn't pay attention to the case, and I doubt if many other people actually saw the entire proceeding to make the same decision that the jury had to make. I was led to believe in school that innocent until proven guilty was the proper way, maybe I'm wrong.
53astropi
2 more bite the dust eh? Well, since these DLEs are selling so well, I'm sure we can expect more of them from EP! I am very happy they are selling well, since they are amazing books, and I feel that EP is doing everyone a service by producing these amazing editions (of course, I am totally broke now...). By the way, for those on the fence, consider purchasing Ovid's Metamorphoses before that sells out (or who knows, maybe it has already)??
54EastonQuality
>51 wailofatail: read up on the Anthony case, she was acquitted since there was a lack of evidence beyond a reasonable doubt of a murder in the first degree. She will be tried for negligent homicide and who knows what else. She will not be off the hook entirely, facing many other charges yet to come.
Going back to EP books, I was not entirely impressed with the Romance of King Arthur. Chaucer had similarities yet with a finer quality design look. A few upcoming not yet on the site look great. I can't say which ones, since 'some on LibraryThing' are requesting not to post and 'advertise personal interest favorites' of upcoming titles.
Going back to EP books, I was not entirely impressed with the Romance of King Arthur. Chaucer had similarities yet with a finer quality design look. A few upcoming not yet on the site look great. I can't say which ones, since 'some on LibraryThing' are requesting not to post and 'advertise personal interest favorites' of upcoming titles.
55SilentInAWay
>51 wailofatail:>52>
For the inside poop on the trial, I suppose you'll have to wait for the EP deluxe limited coffee table edition of The Road to Unanimity: Juror Interviews and Testimonials from the Trial of the Decade.
For the inside poop on the trial, I suppose you'll have to wait for the EP deluxe limited coffee table edition of The Road to Unanimity: Juror Interviews and Testimonials from the Trial of the Decade.
56astropi
55: heh, good show old man :)
I have not been following this case, so I do not know if she is innocent or guilty. The law found her innocent, so that is it. However, the law also found Lizzie Borden innocent, and I think it's fairly clear she did it... so justice is not always served (nothing is perfect).
I have not been following this case, so I do not know if she is innocent or guilty. The law found her innocent, so that is it. However, the law also found Lizzie Borden innocent, and I think it's fairly clear she did it... so justice is not always served (nothing is perfect).
57menteith
Anyone receive their Slaughterhouse 5 yet? I'm anxious to see some pictures and hear your verdicts.
58larryos
Good Morning. If anyone is interested in selling any Deluxe Limited Editions, you can contact me at larry@franklinbooks.com I would love to add some of the sold out ones to my collection. Thanks
59SilentInAWay
Yesterday, I received the "unforseen production issues" letter for the Canterbury Tales DLE. The books are now expected to be "ready for shipment" on September 30. Those who have pre-ordered must confirm their purchase by July 28.
60iluvbeckett
>59 SilentInAWay: Thanks silent. Any other updates from EP on status of the other DLE's that we should know?
62iluvbeckett
Mr. Wootle: DLE collector extraordinaire
63astropi
Wootle, do you have any favorites? I must say, they are all beautiful without question, but any personal faves? By the way, those pics make the books seem much smaller than they really are! I would say throw in a ruler with the books so that people can judge just how large and wonderful the books truly are!
64Wootle
Kelmscott and Crusades are still my favorites, they haven't been matched yet.
I guess I need a wooden yardstick, it really is amazing how large they have become.
I guess I need a wooden yardstick, it really is amazing how large they have become.
66hamletscamaro
These books are all so huge that Chaucer almost looks small. I remember thinking that that book was large enough to warrant extra structural support in my house at the time.
Wootle your collection is truely impressive. I curse you for posting them as I have decided not to purchase a few of these in hopes that I may save my marriage and yet have some extra cash to send my kids through college. Your pictures are like free booze to an alcoholic.
Wootle your collection is truely impressive. I curse you for posting them as I have decided not to purchase a few of these in hopes that I may save my marriage and yet have some extra cash to send my kids through college. Your pictures are like free booze to an alcoholic.
68SilentInAWay
Good luck with that.
69hamletscamaro
Darn you Wootle! After thinking of your photos all night I just had to put my order in for Ovid first thing this morning.
EP said that they are starting to get low on remaining stock, but of course wouldn't reveal how many they had left.
Looks like it is junior college for my kids!
EP said that they are starting to get low on remaining stock, but of course wouldn't reveal how many they had left.
Looks like it is junior college for my kids!
70Wootle
Nothing wrong with a community college, especially if they can get their real education in your library.
71keas
I received my copy of ovid a few days ago and the number was in the high 400's (sorry at work at the moment so can't give the exact number )
73LucasTrask
Ovid was advertised as a limited edition of 800...
74wailofatail
>73 LucasTrask:: The picture of the title page that Wootle posted here states that it is limited to 400 copies.
75Wootle
A couple of them were advertised as 800, but were reduced to 400 prior to publication. Ovid being one of them. I would definetely like to see a photo of the limitation page if it is indeed over 400.
76Tom41
I just looked inside of mine. Both the limitation page and the loose COA say the limitation is 400. My number is 39.
78keas
Humble apologies , the perils of posting from work . My number is in fact 357 so ignore my blatherings about high 400's
79wailofatail
>78 keas:: High three-hundreds, close to 400 ... I can easily see the mental mix up.
80astropi
I just updated post #1, adding links to threads with pics. Thanks goes to Wootle for all his pics! I hope Wootle continues to purchase these and share pics :) However, for all the rest that also purchase these books, please add your pics too!
83astropi
Out of 14 DLEs released so far, EP has sold out of 9 of them! Also, at least 2 more (Metamorphoses and Slaughterhouse-Five) will assuredly sell out sometime in the near future!
84AnnieMod
You all are bad bad people... just when I was resisting pretty successfully and you all started all over again.
>82 Wootle: - Yep.
>82 Wootle: - Yep.
85ironjaw
Pure compeition - I know there are some members here when seeing Wootle's pictures are either kicking themselves for denying the pure state of bliss one could have attained when in possession of all 14 DLE or are rushing out to order from EP because they cannot resist the temptation no more.
86AnnieMod
The only good thing is that as much as I admire all of them, I am not interested in most of them. The ones I am interested in though are either on order or already here... (as of today that ones on order Vonnegut).
87WinterGloaming
> 86
Same for me, I only own one. Its nice to see all of them together in a picture and they look really good, but the feeling of owning them would not be worth the price alone for me.
I appriciate the picture but for me it would be alot of wasted money I would use on other books along the line.
Same for me, I only own one. Its nice to see all of them together in a picture and they look really good, but the feeling of owning them would not be worth the price alone for me.
I appriciate the picture but for me it would be alot of wasted money I would use on other books along the line.
88LucasTrask
Yes, I know the Ovid limitation was reduced. I was just noting that E/P originally announced a higher limitation. I guess I should have used a ;-). Actually, I believe that E/P has reduced the limitation on a number of DLEs, including the Gibbon's to 0 (that one must be extremely valuable :-) ). I think it would be a good idea if astropi added the original advertised limitation and the actual limitation.
89astropi
Of course, it's interesting to note that EP is about to double dib. We have the Kelmscott, and now we will have the Flint Canterbury Tales. I love Flint's artwork! However, $750 is so much money... well, the good thing is at that price it probably won't sell out quickly. Of course I say that now, and before you knowit *bam* (SOLD OUT)... scary....
90Wootle
Talked to EP this morning. They say several hundred copies of Ovid and SL-5 are left. So you all may still have a little time left for those two.
91LucasTrask
Of course E/P may also be 'slightly behind' in how many have actually been ordered as well...
92Wootle
That's possible also. I would think the count on the computer in front of them would be close to correct as compared to their outdated website.
93DanMat
Nary a word on Gulliver's Travels. What's the consensus? Grandville is so overlooked, but I just know him for his anthropomorphic work, which is startling, as opposed to the more straightforward Dore-like illustration work:
http://www.fantasticmenagerie.com/original%20engravings.htm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Grandville_leLoup_Et_Le_Chien...
*I think what makes them so compelling is the way the heads sit on the bodies, like actual people are wearing an animal mask. And the animal heads themselves are very acutely drawn.
I think Grandville also did illustrations for Robinson Crusoe as well.
http://www.fantasticmenagerie.com/original%20engravings.htm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Grandville_leLoup_Et_Le_Chien...
*I think what makes them so compelling is the way the heads sit on the bodies, like actual people are wearing an animal mask. And the animal heads themselves are very acutely drawn.
I think Grandville also did illustrations for Robinson Crusoe as well.
94jlabeatnik
I received my Slaughterhouse-5, but won't be opening it, as it is an xmas present.
95AnnieMod
>87 WinterGloaming:
I have two and two more are coming.
But if it is just for the money, a paperback can be found for almost anything EP is publishing. And a lot of the texts are public domain. :)
I have two and two more are coming.
But if it is just for the money, a paperback can be found for almost anything EP is publishing. And a lot of the texts are public domain. :)
96itacal
I received my Ovid today and it is huge! Also, very beautiful, but there is a problem the gold lettering and ornamentation on the spine of Volume 2 is not centered like on Volume 1. It is offset toward the back of the book. Is this common or did I get a screwed up copy. I normally wouldn't be so anal, but at $250 a book ...
Thanks
Thanks
97Wootle
Call them right away so they can send you a new one. Ask them if you can keep the one you have until you get the new one, just in case they sell out before you get the new one. Like you say, at $250/book, it should be done properly.
98itacal
I e-mailed customer service about the condition of Volume 2 (Ovid) They sent a reply in 8 minutes telling me they were shipping a replacement with a prepaid box for the messed up volume. Now that's what I call customer service!
99astropi
Yes, the Easton Press customer service is top notch! I just wish they would sack whoever was resonpsible for their attrocious publicity (terrible webpage and flyers almost no one seems)...
100itacal
After reviewing each book extensively, I am somewhat dismayed by the lack of quality of these books. At any rate, there are pages where the print is smeared or letters and punctuations are shadowed. I have purchased several signed editions, but never an edition that is a reproduction of an historical one. Are the printing flaws intentional so as to mimic the original edition?
101Wootle
The suppossed flaws are reproduced from the original. It has been that way in all of the DLEs that I have looked at.
102hamletscamaro
A couple of the DLEs that EP sent me also faithfully reproduced the ageless act of being stolen. People have been stealing books for thousands of years!
However, EP quickly replaced the stolen books and luckily they were not out of any of the titles in question.
However, EP quickly replaced the stolen books and luckily they were not out of any of the titles in question.
103astropi
Ugh! Just got a notice from EP:
"Thank you for ordering the Easton Press Deluxe Limited Edition of Gustave Dore’s London : A Pilgrimage. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, we are not yet sure if we are going to be able to produce this volume. We expect to know by the end of July and will contact you then."
I really HOPE that they will publish this amazing volume... please... please...
"Thank you for ordering the Easton Press Deluxe Limited Edition of Gustave Dore’s London : A Pilgrimage. Unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, we are not yet sure if we are going to be able to produce this volume. We expect to know by the end of July and will contact you then."
I really HOPE that they will publish this amazing volume... please... please...
104busywine
Frankly, this mode of doing business is starting to really anger me. I would guess their "unforeseen" circumstance is they did not get enough orders to this point...maybe not fair, and perhaps incorrect, but whatever is happening in EP land is not a great way of doing business and I am close to severing a 23 year relationship with them. They leave themselves open to conjecture since they give us these ambiguous, kind of bs based, notes.
105hamletscamaro
astropi, I think you are the common thread in these cancellations. First Decline, and now possibly London. We may need to conduct an exorcism or something to purge the bad mojo from you... :)
106SilentInAWay
I want that London book -- what must we do to astropi to prove our worthiness?
108astropi
Well, now that you ask... I had a dream about this. I saw seven beautifully thick DLEs. Then I saw 7 thin little paperbacks. The paperbacks then devoured the DLEs. I realize what this means and how to stop it. You must all sacrifice a DLE. First, you must gently caress it's soft leather skin. Then you must carefully bubble-wrap it. Then you must send it to me. At that point, I believe the curse shall be lifted :)
109SilentInAWay
...b-but then the curse would be upon you. Nay, friend, we could never let you do that to yourself!
(*as I check to see how much bubble-wrap I've got stored up for evil times like this*)
(*as I check to see how much bubble-wrap I've got stored up for evil times like this*)
110astropi
I am willing to make sacrificies, in order for the good of my EP friends. Fear not Silent, all will be well, as soon as I receive your DLEs :D
111Wootle
Newest catalog arrived today. They reduced the limitation for Canterbury Tales from 500 down to 300.
112SilentInAWay
oh--I didn't notice that...
113SilentInAWay
good catch
114hamletscamaro
So do you think that they produce these in batches? I would have thought it was more cost effective to produce these in large bacthes but maybe they break these into a couple of batches to judge demand and keep from sitting on a large inventory since they don't have sales.
115wailofatail
The Limited Editions ... ? I think they print them in a single batch.
116hamletscamaro
Wail, I'm just thinking they didn't print all 500 editions of Canterbury Tales or they wouldn't have reduced the edition count from 500 to 300.
118hamletscamaro
Good point Wootle. I forgot to take this into account since this is one of the few I haven't ordered.
119Quicksilver66
When is Gullivers Travels due to ship? Is it the end of July? I am looking forward to this one. At least it's arrival will be some consolation for the cancelation of Gibbon.
121Quicksilver66
> 120
Thanks Wootle.
Thanks Wootle.
122larryos
Good Afternoon Everyone. If anyone has a copy of DaVinci's Notebooks that they are looking to sell I would appreciate your getting in touch with me at everestshoe@aol.com Thanks, Larry
123wailofatail
>122 larryos:: Depending on how badly you want it, here is the least expensive set available on Ebay; a mere $600. Of course, gilded-legacy-books will happily sell you his set for $1449, plus shipping, because at that margin of profit you can't expect that to be included.
124astropi
123: agreed, it does seem a bit asinine to charge S&H to such a price, but then again perhaps gilded realizes it's such an asinine price to begin with, you might as well go for it all!
125hamletscamaro
Has anyone received confirmation if Gulliver's Travels is actually shipping this month? I asked EP a couple of week ago and never got a clear answer.
Likewise, any new news on Dore's London? Or does Astropi's curse still have that edition on hold?
Likewise, any new news on Dore's London? Or does Astropi's curse still have that edition on hold?
126Wootle
I found my note for Gullivers and it said July 23rd instead of the 25th. I called them and they said they didn't get their shipment, but it is still supposed to be there by the end of the month.
127AnnieMod
>125 hamletscamaro:/126
End of July/beginning of August is what Customer Services said this morning for Gulliver... They are not shipping yet.
No idea for London....
End of July/beginning of August is what Customer Services said this morning for Gulliver... They are not shipping yet.
No idea for London....
128Quicksilver66
> 127
Gullivers Travels is shipping on 5th August according to a letter I received from EP today. I had to call to confirm my order or else it would have been automatically cancelled due to the revised shipping estimate.
Gullivers Travels is shipping on 5th August according to a letter I received from EP today. I had to call to confirm my order or else it would have been automatically cancelled due to the revised shipping estimate.
129AnnieMod
>128 Quicksilver66:
No letter here (yet) but I talked to them yesterday so hopefully that will be enough. Keeping an eye on the mail though :) Thanks for the heads up.
No letter here (yet) but I talked to them yesterday so hopefully that will be enough. Keeping an eye on the mail though :) Thanks for the heads up.
130hamletscamaro
>127 AnnieMod:,128
I just received my letter on the Gulliver's Travels today. I of course called but note that the letter said that you must notify them by July 29th (i.e. Today). So if any of you don't have your letter you may want to proactively call them today anyway.
I just received my letter on the Gulliver's Travels today. I of course called but note that the letter said that you must notify them by July 29th (i.e. Today). So if any of you don't have your letter you may want to proactively call them today anyway.
131kdweber
I agree that they sent out their letter a little late. I received mine yesterday and promptly called to renew my order.
132AnnieMod
And what happens if you are on vacation when the main arrives? I think any time before this the letters were the opposite - call if you want to cancel? Oh well. I guess I am calling again just in case.
133iluvbeckett
>128 Quicksilver66:+ That doesn't seem quite right - why should customers' orders be automatically cancelled if EP changes the shipping date? Shouldn't the presumption be that orders or pre-orders have been placed and people are waiting patiently (or not) for their books?
134wailofatail
>133 iluvbeckett:: Government regulation requires Easton Press to cancel the order 'unless' you re-confirm. Good 'ol government always looking out for me. Isn't life grand?
135AnnieMod
>134 wailofatail:
Jeez. Should we start a "reconfirmation needed" thread for people that do not get their mail regularly?
PS: Mine is reconfirmed simply because I asked for delivery estimates by chance earlier this week...
Jeez. Should we start a "reconfirmation needed" thread for people that do not get their mail regularly?
PS: Mine is reconfirmed simply because I asked for delivery estimates by chance earlier this week...
136hamletscamaro
Wail is indeed correct. Per the Government Fair Trade Commission:
"What is the Mail or Telephone Order Rule?
The Rule requires that when you advertise merchandise, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. If you make no shipment statement, you must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days. That is why direct marketers sometimes call this the "30-day Rule."
If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise."
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-...
"What is the Mail or Telephone Order Rule?
The Rule requires that when you advertise merchandise, you must have a reasonable basis for stating or implying that you can ship within a certain time. If you make no shipment statement, you must have a reasonable basis for believing that you can ship within 30 days. That is why direct marketers sometimes call this the "30-day Rule."
If, after taking the customer’s order, you learn that you cannot ship within the time you stated or within 30 days, you must seek the customer’s consent to the delayed shipment. If you cannot obtain the customer’s consent to the delay -- either because it is not a situation in which you are permitted to treat the customer’s silence as consent and the customer has not expressly consented to the delay, or because the customer has expressly refused to consent -- you must, without being asked, promptly refund all the money the customer paid you for the unshipped merchandise."
http://business.ftc.gov/documents/bus02-business-guide-mail-and-telephone-order-...
137AnnieMod
But we are well into the 30 days rule on that one if they ship as per the current plan...
139SilentInAWay
117, 138>
Yes, late September, according to the letter I received a couple of weeks ago (see message 59 above).
Yes, late September, according to the letter I received a couple of weeks ago (see message 59 above).
140iluvbeckett
I got the flyer for Ovid today, which is nice, or rather it would be nice if I lived under a rock and didn't already know that this has been available for a couple of months and received the actual volumes a bit over a week ago. There appears to be a "failure to communicate" between EP's marketing and shipping operations (granted one is in Connecticut and the other in Tennessee). Perhaps they have so many customers they can't cross-reference who has ordered what and adjust their mailings accordingly?
I had a similar experience this past spring, when I got the "Divine Comedy", both the shipment and the flyer, within a day of each other (see post #49 in the "Easton Press Deluxe Limited Editions (3)" thread). It would be good if EP could be a little more efficient in this regard: maybe mail out the flyers for new DLEs FIRST, THEN add them to the website (yeah, that needs some work too), and FINALLY list them in the catalogs. "Just a thought"!!
I had a similar experience this past spring, when I got the "Divine Comedy", both the shipment and the flyer, within a day of each other (see post #49 in the "Easton Press Deluxe Limited Editions (3)" thread). It would be good if EP could be a little more efficient in this regard: maybe mail out the flyers for new DLEs FIRST, THEN add them to the website (yeah, that needs some work too), and FINALLY list them in the catalogs. "Just a thought"!!
141Arknight
>140 iluvbeckett:
I also got a flyer for Ovid yesterday. What basically bothers me about this is that if they aren't going to coordinate their advertising to go out at the same time as their website (when the DLEs start selling out), then it is just a waste of money to send out late mailers. Wasted money on mailers means potential money that has to be recuperated by charging more for books in the future.
They should just focus on using email marketing and adding the detail shown in their flyers to their website, instead.
I also got a flyer for Ovid yesterday. What basically bothers me about this is that if they aren't going to coordinate their advertising to go out at the same time as their website (when the DLEs start selling out), then it is just a waste of money to send out late mailers. Wasted money on mailers means potential money that has to be recuperated by charging more for books in the future.
They should just focus on using email marketing and adding the detail shown in their flyers to their website, instead.
142astropi
I still have not received a SINGLE flyer for any EP DLE! I keep getting flyers for EP books that I have absolutely no interest in! Perhaps this is actually good marketing on EP's side. After all, I'm interested in the DLEs therefore I will purchase them (assuming I can afford them). Hence, might as well not waste time in sending me flyers for those.
By the way, I received a letter stating that the DLE London with Dore's illustrations will indeed be published. No need to thank me folks! It's all in the line of duty :)
By the way, I received a letter stating that the DLE London with Dore's illustrations will indeed be published. No need to thank me folks! It's all in the line of duty :)
143Quicksilver66
> 142
You are ahead of me, Astropi. I have never received a single flyer from EP, period ! This is despite subscribing to 3 collections and having ordered 4 LE's.
I was however touched when EP sent me a free gift to compensate for the cancellation of Decline and Fall.
You are ahead of me, Astropi. I have never received a single flyer from EP, period ! This is despite subscribing to 3 collections and having ordered 4 LE's.
I was however touched when EP sent me a free gift to compensate for the cancellation of Decline and Fall.
144astropi
143: say what? What free gift?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
145Quicksilver66
> 144
Indeed. It was a nice gesture. I received a polite letter of apology enclosing a copy of an EP bound guide to the pictures in the Washington DC National Art Gallery. A massive book and one which I donated to my mother, who is thrilled with it.
It sounds as if you did not get one ! I don't understand the apparently random way in which EP operates.
Indeed. It was a nice gesture. I received a polite letter of apology enclosing a copy of an EP bound guide to the pictures in the Washington DC National Art Gallery. A massive book and one which I donated to my mother, who is thrilled with it.
It sounds as if you did not get one ! I don't understand the apparently random way in which EP operates.
146astropi
145: yes, this is rather irritating. Some loyal EP subscribers get free gifts, others do not. I do not know why EP is run so poorly. If I had to guess, I would say because it's owned by a large corporation (MBI), however this is speculative.
147kdweber
I think the flyers are sent out randomly; although, I think they do send me flyers for everything along with way too many catalogs. I wish they would send out less marketing material and spend the money saved on improving their abysmal web site.
148AnnieMod
>147 kdweber:
I am not sure it is that random. I seem to be getting quite a lot of flyers these days -- and I was getting almost none when I was just getting 2 series... Although i suspect I am on every single mail list just now -- if I do not get a letter from EP every 3 days or so, I start wondering what is wrong... :)
I am not sure it is that random. I seem to be getting quite a lot of flyers these days -- and I was getting almost none when I was just getting 2 series... Although i suspect I am on every single mail list just now -- if I do not get a letter from EP every 3 days or so, I start wondering what is wrong... :)
149SilentInAWay
I was told today that EP has already started shipping Fables of Aesop (the expected delivery is this week!!).
150hamletscamaro
>149 SilentInAWay: Then I must stop reading this board immediately lest someone like Wootle post pictures and I be forced to order this set which I have previously been able to avoid to give me bank account a breather.
151LucasTrask
As if you don't post pictures!
152SilentInAWay
I'll make sure to post some when I receive mine then.
153iluvbeckett
>96 itacal: thru 98: I had the same issue with the spine title on one of the volumes being off-center. I e-mailed them and they sent a replacement and shipping label for return, it took just a week. At least EP's customer service is top-notch, even if some other things need improvement!
154Sand_Man
I just received my Ovid yesterday (a few days after receiving the flyer). It's a beautiful edition, however the Vol. I is slightly damaged... showing some wear at the 4 corners on both the front and the back. It's not that noticeable, but it does kind of upset me, that I'm spending this much money on a DLE - it comes brand new and already damaged. I'm going to contact them and see if they can send a replacement volume. It's upsetting that so many people are having issues with this edition.
155hamletscamaro
Re the Ovid shipment, luckily mine came in good condition, but I did notice that the box was a little wanting compared with their excellent packaging on some of the other DLEs.
156iluvbeckett
>154 Sand_Man:, 155: I've just examined my replacement volume and the spine title and decorations are well-centered. There is, however, a very slight "tilt" to the front cover in relation to the back, and the beveling effect on the bottom of the front cover is not as noticeable as on the top or side. I noticed the same small tilting effect on the Volume 1 that I am replacing. I wonder whether this is an issue for a number of copies of Volume 1, as compared to Volume 2? (I'm guessing that generally speaking, the large size and weight of the text block may be creating some slight stresses during and after binding, to cause this?)
The above points are minor but then, I've been somewhat more OCD about the Ovid than other DLE's because of the high price. The replacement is copy #372 compared with #188 for the first one but I'm alright with that since the overall condition is better. (-And c'mon, don't we all wish to get low numbered copies when we crack open these wonderful things?!!)
The above points are minor but then, I've been somewhat more OCD about the Ovid than other DLE's because of the high price. The replacement is copy #372 compared with #188 for the first one but I'm alright with that since the overall condition is better. (-And c'mon, don't we all wish to get low numbered copies when we crack open these wonderful things?!!)
157Sand_Man
>156 iluvbeckett:: I've contacted them via email since posting about my issue here, and they responded rather quickly saying they will send a replacement volume. They didn't seem very apologetic in their email, actually it almost sounded like an automatic ("Great, another Ovid complaint!") response. I wonder if they think we're just annoying perfectionists?
I've actually never really cared much about what number I get. Should I?
I've actually never really cared much about what number I get. Should I?
158SilentInAWay
157> I've actually never really cared much about what number I get. Should I?
I stopped caring when I learned that the numbered books are sent out in arbitrary order...
I stopped caring when I learned that the numbered books are sent out in arbitrary order...
159AnnieMod
>157 Sand_Man:
Easton Press tend to be either overly apologetic or just business-polite. I personally prefer the second one more :)
Easton Press tend to be either overly apologetic or just business-polite. I personally prefer the second one more :)
160astropi
I don't know about email, but when I call them up and speak to costumer service, they are top-notch! Always quick, polite, and hassle-free. If only the government was 10% as efficient as EP costumer service, we wouldn't be in the mess we are now!
I also stopped caring about what numbers I get in the DLEs, since I only seem to get 451...
I also stopped caring about what numbers I get in the DLEs, since I only seem to get 451...
162Wootle
160-- "I also stopped caring about what numbers I get in the DLEs, since I only seem to get 451..."
I know what you mean, I've seen #1 so many times I'm ready for a change.
I know what you mean, I've seen #1 so many times I'm ready for a change.
163astropi
162: I feel your pain. Or take my last DLE:
"Your copy is number sqrt(-1)" out of 500."
Great, another imaginary number...
"Your copy is number sqrt(-1)" out of 500."
Great, another imaginary number...
164Wootle
http://cgi.ebay.com/Gullivers-Travels-Grandville-Easton-Press-New-Ltd-Ed-/350483...
First to market yet again. Haven't seen my copy yet.
First to market yet again. Haven't seen my copy yet.
165wailofatail
I'm going to start placing advance reservations with gabrielac instead of E/P so that I can get my orders more quickly.
166Quicksilver66
My account has been deducted with my first Gullivers Travels installment. Yippeee - at last. Can't wait for this as Swift is one of my favourite writers. I am still cut up over the Gibbon cancellation, though.
168Arknight
>167 astropi:
Don't worry, I'm sure gabrielac will still pop up with a copy on eBay one of these days ;)
Don't worry, I'm sure gabrielac will still pop up with a copy on eBay one of these days ;)
169LipstickAndAviators
>167 astropi:
Get over it, it's been 217 years :P
>168 Arknight:
For the bargain price of $8,000 plus $8 shipping no doubt.
Get over it, it's been 217 years :P
>168 Arknight:
For the bargain price of $8,000 plus $8 shipping no doubt.
170Quicksilver66
> 169
Or $16,000 if it's in shrink-wrap.
Or $16,000 if it's in shrink-wrap.
171acidneutral
Speaking of Gulliver's Travels, it has been on my "to read" list for the last 20 years. Now I'm not sure I want to make this kind of investment in this edition, but is there a "bargain" edition I should peruse?
173astropi
172: agreed! I understand if you're not happy, EP will refund you 1/2 the price in Lilliputians!
174Django6924
acidneutral, the edition published by the LEC was one of the first that restored Swift's original text, which had been bowdlerised over the years by people who saw it as a fantasy for children. That edition is fairly expensive, but the Heritage Press reprint, with wood engravings by the redoubtable Fritz Eichenberg is widely available in editions listed as "Fine" for under $15. Since my LEC is in Very Fine condition, and rather valuable as such, the Heritage edition is the one I read, and it is a lovely edition in itself.
PS: If you go this route, just be sure it's the edition with the New York address--not Connecticut.
PS: If you go this route, just be sure it's the edition with the New York address--not Connecticut.
175hamletscamaro
>166 Quicksilver66:, 167, I am also mourning the cancellation of Gibbons. I really wanted this set since I wanted the original 6 volume set, and this was just going to be better in every way. Let's hope that they will free this to move forward since they were also able to work through whatever issue that they had with Dore's London.
176astropi
Just a reminder that there is a petition to save Gibbons. So far it has only 12 signatures... very sad.
http://gibbon.epetitions.net/
177hamletscamaro
>176 astropi:, I am tempted to create several more Librarything accounts just so I can sign the petition multiple times, but alas, there are only so many hours in the day.
178ironjaw
You don't have to create LT accounts just sign the petition with fictitious names such as Homer J. Simpson, Gaylord Focker, etc :o) Just kidding I know we have to take this seriously.
179EastonQuality
Astropi, there are near 210 members in the group, not all would be interested in a specific set and unfortunately this site is limited for the number of members. The best route would include Easton with a sign in on their official site and a request page, once they reach the demand and confirmation from members then it would be a great idea to print the books.
180Quicksilver66
Was there not some other reason why they cancelled Gibbon ? I though someone had found out it was not cancelled due to lack of demand.
181Wootle
Received Aesop's Fables today, anyone else? I didn't even know I had it pre-ordered. Maybe EP figures I buy them all anyway that now they just send them whether I request them or not. I thought it was Gulliver's sitting on the stoop when I pulled up, was very surprised to see this set instead.
183SilentInAWay
I received mine a week ago Wednesday (August 3rd) -- although I definitely had mine pre-ordered.
Hey Wootle, maybe this title isn't selling so well, so they sent you a free set knowing that you'd post photos and drum up some sales.
Hey Wootle, maybe this title isn't selling so well, so they sent you a free set knowing that you'd post photos and drum up some sales.
184Wootle
I wish. They also sent an invoice, although 1st payment isn't supposed to post until today.
185UK_History_Fan
Hi, I am new to this group but have been reading up on the posts for the last several days.
Just received the DLE Gulliver's Travels today. I previously ordered and received: Romance of King Arthur, Ovid, Dante's Divine Comedy and the 10-volume Lincoln set. I was very disappointed with Gulliver's Travels upon opening. The quality is not nearly up to the standards of the other DLE sets I have (though admittedly the Lincoln is still shrink-wrapped, but now I am worried about it!). The leather appears no nicer than a standard EP book (say, from the 100 Greatest collection), the book arrived with a dinged/dented corner on the upper front board, the ribbon is already frayed, and the corners do not appear to be pulled tightly enough over the boards and appear as though they will wear quickly and possibly pull out from the fold. Also, the paper does not seem special or deluxe at all (unlike the Ovid which so far is my favorite) and the printing quality on the illustrations was no better, and in many cases, worse than woodcuts in a standard issue 100 Greatest book.
Needless to say, it is getting returned on Monday when I call customer service. No replacement needed, I want my money back. And for those who, like me, am always curious about the numbers: it was number 147 out of 500. It is ridiculous to price at $200 for something that is in some ways INFERIOR to the version issued as part of the 100 Greatest. I also own this title in the Franklin Library 100 Greatest Books of All Time, Collected Stories of the World's Greatest Writers, and the 25th Anniversary edition of the Great Books of the Western World. So I am not exactly lacking in copies.
Was anyone else here disappointed by their copy? Thoughts?
In general I have been bemoaning the decreasing quality (unfortunately with inverse pricing!) of Easton Press books over the past 2 to 3 years. Now, as I complete collections, I prefer to buy used copies of older printings when the covers were (IMHO) more beautiful and the quality/durability seems to be at a higher standard. It would be truly sad if this decrease in quality is extending to the DLE. Especially since my initial theory was that EP is decreasing quality in the standard offerings to facilitate the higher pricing of the Deluxe and Limited sets.
I look forward to a healthy debate on this issue!
Just received the DLE Gulliver's Travels today. I previously ordered and received: Romance of King Arthur, Ovid, Dante's Divine Comedy and the 10-volume Lincoln set. I was very disappointed with Gulliver's Travels upon opening. The quality is not nearly up to the standards of the other DLE sets I have (though admittedly the Lincoln is still shrink-wrapped, but now I am worried about it!). The leather appears no nicer than a standard EP book (say, from the 100 Greatest collection), the book arrived with a dinged/dented corner on the upper front board, the ribbon is already frayed, and the corners do not appear to be pulled tightly enough over the boards and appear as though they will wear quickly and possibly pull out from the fold. Also, the paper does not seem special or deluxe at all (unlike the Ovid which so far is my favorite) and the printing quality on the illustrations was no better, and in many cases, worse than woodcuts in a standard issue 100 Greatest book.
Needless to say, it is getting returned on Monday when I call customer service. No replacement needed, I want my money back. And for those who, like me, am always curious about the numbers: it was number 147 out of 500. It is ridiculous to price at $200 for something that is in some ways INFERIOR to the version issued as part of the 100 Greatest. I also own this title in the Franklin Library 100 Greatest Books of All Time, Collected Stories of the World's Greatest Writers, and the 25th Anniversary edition of the Great Books of the Western World. So I am not exactly lacking in copies.
Was anyone else here disappointed by their copy? Thoughts?
In general I have been bemoaning the decreasing quality (unfortunately with inverse pricing!) of Easton Press books over the past 2 to 3 years. Now, as I complete collections, I prefer to buy used copies of older printings when the covers were (IMHO) more beautiful and the quality/durability seems to be at a higher standard. It would be truly sad if this decrease in quality is extending to the DLE. Especially since my initial theory was that EP is decreasing quality in the standard offerings to facilitate the higher pricing of the Deluxe and Limited sets.
I look forward to a healthy debate on this issue!
186Wootle
I haven't received Gullivers as of yet, so can't debate properly. But you are comparing it to much nicer, more expensive editions in Arthur, Ovid, Dante and Lincoln. It would be nice to be of that quality, but for $200, compared to $500, I wouldn't expect quite the same quality. I wouldn't accept a damaged copy and would immediately call for a replacement. As far as printing quality and illustration reproduction, remember that these are replicas of early editions and are being reproduced in detail, so I wouldn't expect the illustrations to be different.
As many have said before, the 100 greatest editions are very well done in high quality and you get a lot for your money.
Please take some photos of Gullivers so we all can see what the issues are. I've only seen the one on ebay in shrinkwrap, but from that shot, it looks really nice.
As many have said before, the 100 greatest editions are very well done in high quality and you get a lot for your money.
Please take some photos of Gullivers so we all can see what the issues are. I've only seen the one on ebay in shrinkwrap, but from that shot, it looks really nice.
187LucasTrask
Also note that the Lincoln set is $1000 for ten volumes, which comes out to $100 a volume.
188hamletscamaro
Wootle, please don't post any photos. I have no sales resistance and haven't ordered this one yet. I am just too weak to withstand the siren's song, but I am holding out...
UK_History_Fan, I hope Gulliver's isn't that bad. Although I didn't order Aesop, I did order Gulliver's, mainly because it was much less expensive. So I am not anticipating that it will be up to all of the same standards of the other DLEs, but I am still hoping it is nice. Maybe I will get mine at work on Monday. We'll see.
UK_History_Fan, I hope Gulliver's isn't that bad. Although I didn't order Aesop, I did order Gulliver's, mainly because it was much less expensive. So I am not anticipating that it will be up to all of the same standards of the other DLEs, but I am still hoping it is nice. Maybe I will get mine at work on Monday. We'll see.
189UK_History_Fan
How do I post pictures? (sorry, hamletscamaro, as someone who enjoys visual representations of items discussed here, I feel compelled to at least try a few photos before sending back)
I suppose I had not considered the book from its $200 price point as compared to the other DLEs. I was viewing it from the perspective of $200 for a single book that is not enough different from other regular EP offerings at less than half that. It is also considerably smaller than the other DLEs I own so it SHOULD cost less.
Finally, I forgot one, as I nearly tripped over it in the library yesterday...I also own the 1611 King James Bible, though it is still shrink-wrapped since I pretty much know what it contains....
So far, interestingly, no one has commented on their views of the rapid decline in EP production quality...Am I alone in this view?
I suppose I had not considered the book from its $200 price point as compared to the other DLEs. I was viewing it from the perspective of $200 for a single book that is not enough different from other regular EP offerings at less than half that. It is also considerably smaller than the other DLEs I own so it SHOULD cost less.
Finally, I forgot one, as I nearly tripped over it in the library yesterday...I also own the 1611 King James Bible, though it is still shrink-wrapped since I pretty much know what it contains....
So far, interestingly, no one has commented on their views of the rapid decline in EP production quality...Am I alone in this view?
190acidneutral
>189 UK_History_Fan: My only quibble is the occasional return I've had to make due to damage. Occasionally I get a volume that obviously fell through quality control, but for the most part the books I receive please me. I have some older EP volumes but I'm not sure I can tell much difference, aside from maybe more elaborate gilding on the covers.
191Wootle
187-- At $100 each for the Lincolns, I think they are a good value, they feel of a high quality to me. Marbled papers, extra gilding, nicer ribbons. I know the $1000 scared people off from this set, but it really is nice. Each one feels "richer" than regular Eastons.
192Wootle
189-- I just link from photobucket.com, LucasTrask can point you to the thread that he explains how to insert dirctly from Librarything.
Agreed that a $200 book (Gullivers) should be nicer than the regular $75 Easton books. I am sure there are some differences, even without having a copy in front of me. Slipcase, marbled papers, 400 illustrations, 3 color stamping, maybe more.
As far as quality declining over the years. I really can't speak about that. I do not own many older editions from the 70's and 80's. The ones I do own seem to have slightly thicker leather, but other than that, I can't think of any other differences.
Agreed that a $200 book (Gullivers) should be nicer than the regular $75 Easton books. I am sure there are some differences, even without having a copy in front of me. Slipcase, marbled papers, 400 illustrations, 3 color stamping, maybe more.
As far as quality declining over the years. I really can't speak about that. I do not own many older editions from the 70's and 80's. The ones I do own seem to have slightly thicker leather, but other than that, I can't think of any other differences.
193SilentInAWay
185>
Although you may indeed be right about the declining quality of EP books (and some of us may indeed have commented on this in this forum in the past--repeatedly, in fact), we also suspect that several major eBay resellers are regular readers of this group and we have no wish for on-line pricing to be any more inflated than it already is. So we've developed a certain way of talking about books that can no longer be bought directly from Easton Press. My "official" response to your comments is therefore...
"You know, older EP books really suck. I don't know why anybody would ever want to buy anything other than a spanking new book direct from Easton Press. I suppose I might pick up some older editions for pennies on the dollar, but I'm really reluctant to do so, since the older books are nowhere near as nice..."
Whew...
Although you may indeed be right about the declining quality of EP books (and some of us may indeed have commented on this in this forum in the past--repeatedly, in fact), we also suspect that several major eBay resellers are regular readers of this group and we have no wish for on-line pricing to be any more inflated than it already is. So we've developed a certain way of talking about books that can no longer be bought directly from Easton Press. My "official" response to your comments is therefore...
"You know, older EP books really suck. I don't know why anybody would ever want to buy anything other than a spanking new book direct from Easton Press. I suppose I might pick up some older editions for pennies on the dollar, but I'm really reluctant to do so, since the older books are nowhere near as nice..."
Whew...
194UK_History_Fan
> 193
As someone who regularly shops and purchases second-hand (ABE, eBay, etc.) as well as directly from the publisher, I fully appreciate your comments. However, I am just cynical enough to believe that no matter what is said here, there will always be eBay price rapists for collectible books. As has been pointed out many times in these pages, there is an important distinction between someone's "asking" price and a recorded actual sales price. All I can say is there are plenty of idiots on both sides of the transactions. I've seen price gouging sellers ask 3 to 4 times a book's true FMV (fair market value) and nearly as often some amateur book buyer that doesn't comparison shop who says "Oh look, a fine copy of that classic work, The Odyssey by Homer, and in leather! I would really pay any price for that." I use that as an example because I have seen fine or near fine condition copies on eBay sell in the range of $17 to $200. And that is an example of a book that can still be had directly from EP for $50.
As someone who regularly shops and purchases second-hand (ABE, eBay, etc.) as well as directly from the publisher, I fully appreciate your comments. However, I am just cynical enough to believe that no matter what is said here, there will always be eBay price rapists for collectible books. As has been pointed out many times in these pages, there is an important distinction between someone's "asking" price and a recorded actual sales price. All I can say is there are plenty of idiots on both sides of the transactions. I've seen price gouging sellers ask 3 to 4 times a book's true FMV (fair market value) and nearly as often some amateur book buyer that doesn't comparison shop who says "Oh look, a fine copy of that classic work, The Odyssey by Homer, and in leather! I would really pay any price for that." I use that as an example because I have seen fine or near fine condition copies on eBay sell in the range of $17 to $200. And that is an example of a book that can still be had directly from EP for $50.
195Quicksilver66
I am not sure about the decline in standards, although I have to admit that I am not sufficiently well acquainted with older EP titles to form a definitive opinion. My oldest EP book is a 1984 copy of Carlyle's French Revolution in the Famous Editions Series. I can't honestly say that the leather feels appreciably different (or better) to that on some of my new EP titles. What I have noticed though is that the quality can vary quite a lot between volumes that are published now. For instance, the leather on my Twenty Thousand Leagues, Paradise Lost and The Iliad feels of better quality than the leather used on The Odyssey, Count of Monte Cristo and Wuthering Heights - all books in the same series. Likewise, the leather on Gone With the Wind is definitely better than that used on the Magic Mountain, again both from the same series. I could give many other examples among new EP volumes I have bought over the past year.
196Quicksilver66
> 61
Wootle, remove all that shrink wrap - now !!! I don't know how you can stand not opening some of those beautiful volumes.
Wootle, remove all that shrink wrap - now !!! I don't know how you can stand not opening some of those beautiful volumes.
197Wootle
Most of it is off now. I still need to build some more shelving though, so am hesitant on a couple of them until they have their permanent spot.
198UK_History_Fan
> 193
My response (194), Silent, was before I read your most excellent summaries on the various books in the Reader's Choice series. You essentially made my argument for me. Thanks for all your work on that post. It has definitely provided me additional clarity for certain books that I was previously "on the fence" about purchasing.
> 196
I am with Wootle...I usually leave the shrink wrap on (if it was ever available for my copy) until I am ready to read the book. Since I have beautiful custom-built cherry bookcases, that alas, have no glass front, I have elected to protect for as long as possible against dust and other environmental concerns.
Though I suspect I will get several posts on why this is a bad idea?
My response (194), Silent, was before I read your most excellent summaries on the various books in the Reader's Choice series. You essentially made my argument for me. Thanks for all your work on that post. It has definitely provided me additional clarity for certain books that I was previously "on the fence" about purchasing.
> 196
I am with Wootle...I usually leave the shrink wrap on (if it was ever available for my copy) until I am ready to read the book. Since I have beautiful custom-built cherry bookcases, that alas, have no glass front, I have elected to protect for as long as possible against dust and other environmental concerns.
Though I suspect I will get several posts on why this is a bad idea?
199SilentInAWay
195>
As I'm sure you know, Quicksilver, EP often reprints books without changing their copyright date -- in particular when the book is part of a subscription series. The only way of truly knowing a book's vintage is 1) receiving the book directly from EP or 2) knowing when a particular edition has been either discontinued or replaced by the same book with a different cover design.
Now, the date on your French Revolution most likely represents the date it was first offered as a Famous Edition (the collection debuted, I believe, in 1983). Does anybody know how long that books was offered in that series (or whether the books was printed using more than one cover, yet the same date on the copyright page)? That book could even be early 90s vintage.
I agree with you about the variance in leather quality. Most of my Easton Press purchases have been made during three distinct periods. Early to late 80s (about 200 books); the mid 90s (about 100 books); and and the mid 2000s to the present (about 400 books). I've only really noticed the use of lesser quality leather during this third period. Here are some other recent trends:
A greater number of one-time printings of books "with special permission" of another publisher
A greater number of non-illustrated books (excluding coffee table and specialty titles)
A greater number of books that lack a publisher's introduction or collector's notes.
A greater number of small-format books within subscription series
A greater number of uninspired cover designs (subjective, yes, but there it is)
A greater number of books with thinly-applied or shallowly-stamped gilding
A greater number of books for which margin size has been reduced from that of earlier printings
A greater number of books that use the same color fabric for the endpapers (once upon a time, the color was specially selected for each book).
Now, these are trends, not rules. There are plenty of beautiful, high-quality books being produced by Easton Press. To long-time collectors (of, say, 20-plus years), the trends are, I believe, obvious.
To EP's credit, they have done a good job at controlling the escalation of prices. In fact, I believe they are offering more "budget" (sub-$60, at this point) series than ever before. The variance in these series is definitely higher than for books in the more expensive series.
I appreciate what EP is trying to do here; however I also cannot turn a blind eye to the facts. This is not a question of gilded memories of "back in the day when I started collecting..." -- the evidence is on my bookshelves!!
As I'm sure you know, Quicksilver, EP often reprints books without changing their copyright date -- in particular when the book is part of a subscription series. The only way of truly knowing a book's vintage is 1) receiving the book directly from EP or 2) knowing when a particular edition has been either discontinued or replaced by the same book with a different cover design.
Now, the date on your French Revolution most likely represents the date it was first offered as a Famous Edition (the collection debuted, I believe, in 1983). Does anybody know how long that books was offered in that series (or whether the books was printed using more than one cover, yet the same date on the copyright page)? That book could even be early 90s vintage.
I agree with you about the variance in leather quality. Most of my Easton Press purchases have been made during three distinct periods. Early to late 80s (about 200 books); the mid 90s (about 100 books); and and the mid 2000s to the present (about 400 books). I've only really noticed the use of lesser quality leather during this third period. Here are some other recent trends:
A greater number of one-time printings of books "with special permission" of another publisher
A greater number of non-illustrated books (excluding coffee table and specialty titles)
A greater number of books that lack a publisher's introduction or collector's notes.
A greater number of small-format books within subscription series
A greater number of uninspired cover designs (subjective, yes, but there it is)
A greater number of books with thinly-applied or shallowly-stamped gilding
A greater number of books for which margin size has been reduced from that of earlier printings
A greater number of books that use the same color fabric for the endpapers (once upon a time, the color was specially selected for each book).
Now, these are trends, not rules. There are plenty of beautiful, high-quality books being produced by Easton Press. To long-time collectors (of, say, 20-plus years), the trends are, I believe, obvious.
To EP's credit, they have done a good job at controlling the escalation of prices. In fact, I believe they are offering more "budget" (sub-$60, at this point) series than ever before. The variance in these series is definitely higher than for books in the more expensive series.
I appreciate what EP is trying to do here; however I also cannot turn a blind eye to the facts. This is not a question of gilded memories of "back in the day when I started collecting..." -- the evidence is on my bookshelves!!
200Quicksilver66
> 199
I can accept what you are saying SilentInAWay and I am sure you are right. It is sad when quality declines. I understand EP's desire to keep books within a certain price point. I also feel sure that many of us here, being enthusiasts, would be happy to pay more for a higher quality product, even if it meant buying fewer volumes in a year. EP, of course, have to appeal to a far broader cost conscious segment of the market in order to survive at all. I expect the LE series is produced with the hard core enthusiasts in mind.
I can accept what you are saying SilentInAWay and I am sure you are right. It is sad when quality declines. I understand EP's desire to keep books within a certain price point. I also feel sure that many of us here, being enthusiasts, would be happy to pay more for a higher quality product, even if it meant buying fewer volumes in a year. EP, of course, have to appeal to a far broader cost conscious segment of the market in order to survive at all. I expect the LE series is produced with the hard core enthusiasts in mind.
201busywine
>199 SilentInAWay:, sadly, as a 23 year subscriber, agree completely.
203SilentInAWay
To bring this back around to the Deluxe Limited Editions...
Each DLE has something deluxe about it, however small -- and all of them are, of course, limited.
I imagine that, simply by limiting the printing to 300-600 copies, EP is justified in doubling the price relative to non-limited books of similar quality.
When they add one or more deluxe features (large format, beveled edges, blind embossing, interior stamping, fancy paper, tipped-in illustrations, profuse reproduction of vintage illustrations, facsimile printing, author's signature, etc.), then there is, of course, justification for even higher prices.
To expect all of these features in a single book is unrealistic, however (imagine the price!!)
The closest that EP has come is the Kelmscott Chaucer--and, in retrospect, I suspect that they did not make "enough" money on that volume (perhaps they even lost money--I don't know). There have been some very nice DLEs subsequent to that volume, but they don't have as many deluxe features in the same book. I remember the initial let-down upon receiving my first DLE after the Kelmscott--it was the 1611 KJB--and being disappointed that it felt like nothing more than a very large version of a regular EP book. If one rules out the Kelmscott, however, which was underpriced--as well as A Midsummer Night's Dream, which was IMHO overpriced--I believe that you generally are getting what you pay for...
I haven't yet received the Gulliver, but I expect that the vintage illustrations and interior stamping will be the only "deluxe" features at this price level...
Each DLE has something deluxe about it, however small -- and all of them are, of course, limited.
I imagine that, simply by limiting the printing to 300-600 copies, EP is justified in doubling the price relative to non-limited books of similar quality.
When they add one or more deluxe features (large format, beveled edges, blind embossing, interior stamping, fancy paper, tipped-in illustrations, profuse reproduction of vintage illustrations, facsimile printing, author's signature, etc.), then there is, of course, justification for even higher prices.
To expect all of these features in a single book is unrealistic, however (imagine the price!!)
The closest that EP has come is the Kelmscott Chaucer--and, in retrospect, I suspect that they did not make "enough" money on that volume (perhaps they even lost money--I don't know). There have been some very nice DLEs subsequent to that volume, but they don't have as many deluxe features in the same book. I remember the initial let-down upon receiving my first DLE after the Kelmscott--it was the 1611 KJB--and being disappointed that it felt like nothing more than a very large version of a regular EP book. If one rules out the Kelmscott, however, which was underpriced--as well as A Midsummer Night's Dream, which was IMHO overpriced--I believe that you generally are getting what you pay for...
I haven't yet received the Gulliver, but I expect that the vintage illustrations and interior stamping will be the only "deluxe" features at this price level...
204SilentInAWay
194>
I hope you realize I was not chiding you, but rather introducing you to a local in-joke (one that is, admittedly, growing less funny with each repetition).
As for the foibles and frauds of on-line resellers, wailofatail is our resident jeremiadist par excellence -- so much so that one of the biggest resellers of overpriced EP books actually called him out by name (in big red letters) on one of his standing pages on eBay!! Now that's credentials!!
I hope you realize I was not chiding you, but rather introducing you to a local in-joke (one that is, admittedly, growing less funny with each repetition).
As for the foibles and frauds of on-line resellers, wailofatail is our resident jeremiadist par excellence -- so much so that one of the biggest resellers of overpriced EP books actually called him out by name (in big red letters) on one of his standing pages on eBay!! Now that's credentials!!
205UK_History_Fan
I am going to attempt to post some pictures of the DLE Gulliver's Travels that has so disappointed me. Please bear in mind these were taken by an amateur with amateur equipment and reflect all the flaws inherent with that.
I have absolutely no idea what I am doing trying to post images internally uploaded using the proper syntax so it may take a few tries and several deleted messages. For that I apologize in advance.
I have absolutely no idea what I am doing trying to post images internally uploaded using the proper syntax so it may take a few tries and several deleted messages. For that I apologize in advance.
207UK_History_Fan
Ok, surely there is a more elegant way to handle this, in the meantime:
Here is the leather cover:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/5/50/GT_Frontcover.JPG
Here is a close-up of the corner ding. Note there already appears to be scratching to the leather on the edge of the front board!
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/b/b3/GT_Cornerding.JPG
Here is a pic of the marble end-pages (the Aesop's Fables appear much nicer!). To me, the gilded stamping on the inside, while a nice touch, in fact appears amateurish up close:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/d/d9/GT_Marblepg.JPG
Here is a pic of my already frayed book marker, as shipped:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/b/b6/GT_Frayribbon.JPG
And although I found this nearly impossible to capture, here is an attempt to get at the poor quality of the corners I was noting:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/3/3d/GT_Cornerfold.JPG
I will post interior pictures separately.
Here is the leather cover:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/5/50/GT_Frontcover.JPG
Here is a close-up of the corner ding. Note there already appears to be scratching to the leather on the edge of the front board!
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/b/b3/GT_Cornerding.JPG
Here is a pic of the marble end-pages (the Aesop's Fables appear much nicer!). To me, the gilded stamping on the inside, while a nice touch, in fact appears amateurish up close:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/d/d9/GT_Marblepg.JPG
Here is a pic of my already frayed book marker, as shipped:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/b/b6/GT_Frayribbon.JPG
And although I found this nearly impossible to capture, here is an attempt to get at the poor quality of the corners I was noting:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/3/3d/GT_Cornerfold.JPG
I will post interior pictures separately.
208UK_History_Fan
As previously mentioned, I found the paper to be less than special (really no more deluxe than standard issue EP books) and the illustrations to be lacking in crispness and definition. Not sure these pictures really catalogue my issues properly, but I thought I would get these up before shipping the book back on Monday.
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/7/71/GT_Title.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/6/6d/GT_Title2.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/8/82/GT_pic1.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/4/4a/GT_pic2.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/1/1f/GT_Pic3.JPG
Here are a couple of illustration close-ups:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/thumb/1/18/GT_Illus_close1.JPG/447px-GT_...
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/8/8b/GT_Illus_close2.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/7/71/GT_Title.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/6/6d/GT_Title2.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/8/82/GT_pic1.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/4/4a/GT_pic2.JPG
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/1/1f/GT_Pic3.JPG
Here are a couple of illustration close-ups:
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/thumb/1/18/GT_Illus_close1.JPG/447px-GT_...
http://www.librarything.com/wiki/images/8/8b/GT_Illus_close2.JPG
209SilentInAWay
You may wish to consult this thread, although some of the formatting options are no longer available (part of EPs efforts to prevent vicious code from being inserted into HTML tags).
If you have the patience to read too many words, then I offer you this description of the process I use to create thumbnails linked to larger images (somewhere in that message I included a link to this tutorial on adding images to HTML).
Don't be afraid to dig in -- it all becomes second nature once you've done it for awhile...
If you have the patience to read too many words, then I offer you this description of the process I use to create thumbnails linked to larger images (somewhere in that message I included a link to this tutorial on adding images to HTML).
Don't be afraid to dig in -- it all becomes second nature once you've done it for awhile...
210astropi
UK, thank you very much for the pics. Sorry you were dissapointed with the book, but nevertheless pics are appreciated (unless you are going to return or exchange the book, in which case I would say hold off on pictures).I would also suggest reading what Silent mentioned and adding the pics directly on to a thread. If you're going to post pics of the DLE Travels, please start a new thread just for this book (assuming there is not one already, and I think currently there is none) and add the pics directly. I will then link your thread to the new DLE list which I update. Much thanks :)
211explor19
I haven't followed the progress of Eaton Press for quite sometime--although I own scores of Easton Press. I lost track when the 100 slowed down. I've seen the threads here on the DLE Easton press. I'm a collector, but I'm not sure if I can talk myself into buying these---do you buy them for the future value? Or for the good feeling that you have a very limited edition (I've done that before with other collections, for sure!). I just want some encouragement (or more precisely--a reason to get them!) I basically would like to get some, but not sure how my emotional sector can talk my logical sector into it! Any comments would be appreciated!
212AnnieMod
>211 explor19:
I get the ones I want to read in a nice edition and where I like the DLE. Limited and future value rarely cross my mind. But then as we had already figured out, I am a strange person in that regard.
I get the ones I want to read in a nice edition and where I like the DLE. Limited and future value rarely cross my mind. But then as we had already figured out, I am a strange person in that regard.
213Tugar
Buy the ones you find too sexy to resist. Fahrenheit 451 is my fave. Bold, beautiful...sexy. If none of them do that for you, save your dough. They're a hit or miss on investment potential.
214hamletscamaro
Don't buy them for investment. Get an eTrade account for that. I agree with AnnieMod and Tugar, buy what you like and what interests you.
215explor19
Thanks very much --that helps a lot--I can take the "investment" factor out of it for sure!
216UK_History_Fan
Collecting books is a bit like collecting cars. It can be an obsession and a rather expensive habit but one must distinguish between a hobby and an investment. Both end up depreciating over time except in rare and exceptional cases. You enjoy it and use it for as long as you like and when you are ready to get rid of it, you hope to get some small percentage of your cost back depending on the wear and tear. The difference between what you pay and what you get back is your cost to use, own and enjoy.
218UK_History_Fan
> 217
Perhaps it is best that I collected books rather than spouses then!
Perhaps it is best that I collected books rather than spouses then!
220Tugar
Unless you choose the path of the disturbed cult leader. Then it can actually be pofitable....and a little creepy....and wrong....
221hamletscamaro
Spouses usually are not a good candidate for starting a collection. They offer cost you more after you have decided to get rid of them.
Also,as spouses and book collecting sometimes do not go together the trick is to select wisely upfront to ensure you don't need to start collecting additional spouses.
Also,as spouses and book collecting sometimes do not go together the trick is to select wisely upfront to ensure you don't need to start collecting additional spouses.
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